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• #36 - Chad Elkins: 25th Century Games in the 21¼st Century

  Chad Elkins, Founder and Lead Developer at 25th Century Games, joins the show for its 25th 36th episode. This episode is so piping hot that you’ll need your best stoneware mug to keep it contained. Through a ton of insightful commentary on general development, localization, and reprinting games, and the fun stories surrounding all of these processes, there are so many takeaways to things I’d been wondering about for some time. Chad also gives away the “formuoli” for getting the rights to something like Ra. With so much enjoyable conversation here, make sure you Run Run Run! to wherever you listen to your podcasts and check out this episode.There’s a lot to look out for 25th Century Games, so check out their website, social media profiles, and current crowdfunding project (wrapping up soon, but there will be a late-pledge option on Kickstarter until the the pledge manager on Backerkit opens, where late-pledging will be available as well!)25th Century Games Website25th Century Games on BlueskyObservatory and Star Gazers on KickstarterIntro, The State of 25th Century Games in 2025, and Mugs (0:00)Chad and I technically connected first through mugs, so we start off the conversation chatting about those, a game group that's been going strong for one-tenth of a decade, and how 25th is doing in ‘25.Some of that Sweet, Homegrown Localization [is that an oxymoron?] (20:39)25th Century Games has published a whole bunch of games through several different means over not too long of a history. Listening to the process, care, and relationships built through different types of publications was a treat for me!“I Invoke Ra!” (37:18)We talk about Ra, which is pretty obvious based on this chapter title, BUT Chad also discusses different approaches when it comes to handling reworking games for reprints.Furthermore, he brings up a fun fact about the number in the BGG url matching its entry in the site’s database (Ra being 12). When I was adding the links to the document that tries to capture all of the games mentioned in this episode (see below), I saw that Catan was 13th–fun coincidence.Import Collections (52:32)A quick bit where Chad has to guess my most played 25th Century Game.Wrap-up Questions (1:01:29)A text on Chad’s mind and things to look out for from 25th Century Games.Games Mentioned in this Episode If you like this show, liking it on whatever platform you listen to and writing a review would mean so much! Furthermore, it's as independent as it gets, so any financial support would help with the subscriptions that make this project go smoothly. That can be done here: Buy Me a [email protected] Sandwich (to purchase) —check its BGG too—these show notes are too long with that hyperlinked (lol)

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• #35 - Kaleb Wentzel-Fisher: Power Vacuum or (The Death of The Brave Little Toaster: A Space Odyssey)

  In the show’s 35th episode, we are super electrified to have designer Kaleb Wentzel-Fisher join us and to talk about Power Vacuum and so much more. The stories here might shock you! The puns I force Kaleb to make might make your hair stand on end! That’s all a part of the guarantee that you are in for a more fun time than a stroll down the aisle of your local appliance store.But in all seriousness, this is a great episode. You already knew that.Check out Kaleb’s work:WebsiteBlue SkyPower Vacuum (purchasable through Keen Bean Studio)[The intro kind of forgot the number initially, making things sound a little funky–but that was corrected shortly after–lol.]NEW SHOW NOTES FEATURE–Google Doc of Games Mentioned this EpisodePrologue (0:00)Several fun introductory anecdotes, and Kaleb is set up with a task that will help “set the scene” for each of the following acts.Act I (18:30)Exploring Kaleb’s backgrounds in film and sound in order to see how they have made their way into Kaleb’s board game design thoughts. Kaleb and Malachi Ray Rempen (Keen Bean Studio) have a very interesting backstory, and Kaleb reflects on that here as well.Act II (48:11)Some quotes taken from The Death of Stalin, an inspiration for Power Vacuum, and some random questions based on those quotes.Act III (1:15:16)What constitutes an appliance?How did Power Vacuum come to exist?What is the meaning of life?Two of those three questions are answered.Probably.Epilogue (1:41:26)A text on Kaleb’s mind and things to look out for from him in the future.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If you like this show, liking it on whatever platform you listen to and writing a review would mean so much! Furthermore, it's as independent as it gets, so any financial support would help with the subscriptions that make this project go smoothly. That can be done here: Buy Me a [email protected] Sandwich BGGOversized Sandwich (to purchase)

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• Vodcast 5 - Show Noteception

  An episode about show notes with my shortest show note section yet.This episodes talks about the state of the show (all good and more good to come [sorry about any pause 😔], how I obsess over show notes (a bit too much), and genre and how different games have differing ease in returning to them.To keep up the bit about the short notes here, there are no time stamps; it all kind of flows in and out with maybe sensible transitions, much like a dream (within a dream [within a...]).-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If you like this show, liking it on whatever platform you listen to and writing a review would mean so much! Furthermore, it's as independent as it gets, so any financial support would help with the subscriptions that make this project go smoothly. That can be done here: Buy Me a [email protected] Sandwich BGGOversized Sandwich (to purchase)

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• #34 - Carl Robinson—Kelp: Fun vs. Fun

  In this interview, fun isn’t actually competing, but different types of fun and the way they interact with each other are being examined. As a little thought experiment, which games pop into your head when you think about the thrill of danger? Carl Robinson, designer of the hit game Kelp: Shark vs. Octopus, joins the show to discuss something that has been on his mind for quite some time, and that’s the way fun is discussed when examining board games. As a designer of a game that is a whole lot of fun, Carl has some great insights into this matter. And the discussion is well… it’s just fun. Enjoy!Check out Carl’s work on BoardGameGeek and reflections on Bluesky.Introductory Questions (0:00)Carl’s early experiences with board games.Introduction to this Episode’s Structure (12:38)And why Carl has been thinking about this topic.Here is the trimmed up sheet with the links and everything for all of the game’s Carl mentioned. It serves as a good extra set of show notes to link the BGG pages of the games (so you can all see credits on there), and it’s a fun look behind the scenes, of sorts.Social Interaction and Fellowship (23:11)Discovery (26:53)Winning/Competition (37:07)Comedy (49:00)Application of an Ability (54:25)Being Silly (59:31)Relaxation/Immersion/Submission (1:09:46)Discovery Revisited (1:22:08)Sensation (1:26:47)Failing/”Stupid” Games (1:34:48)Power (1:41:08)Fun in Kelp! (1:51:07)Wrap-up Questions (1:59:52)A text on Carl’s mind, what to look out for from him, and how thinking about the focus of this episode has impacted those particular projects.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If you like this show, liking it on whatever platform you listen to and writing a review would mean so much! Furthermore, it's as independent as it gets, so any financial support would help with the subscriptions that make this project go smoothly. That can be done here: Buy Me a [email protected]

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• #33 - Candice Harris: Musical Board Game Layers with a Percussively Inclined Player

  A close second place option for the episode title was “Meeplekeeper’s Palace.”Also, there’s a little bit of a note in the episodes after the credits (kind of as an epilogue). In the past, I’ve done a couple prologue/pre-show notes; if necessary, I’d do them again. This particular note makes more sense at the end, so make sure you’re tuned in until the “end end.”ANYWAY, Candice Harris joins the show for a super special thirty-third episode! Candice is a lifelong musician and took a similar proclivity of deep-diving things she’s passionate about to board games, where she’s a media creator for BoardGameGeek. The list of things she doesn’t do there would be shorter than what she does, but a few of her contributions include hosting the BoardGameGeek Podcast, Cardboard Creations, TeaForge, The Quad, and probably something else I’m missing. Candice also writes, creates, and contributes in many other capacities, with recent work on BGG’s 25th Anniversary Hall of Fame Inductees (click here for video!).The confluence of those interests is what this episode is about, and excitingly Candice has designed a board game, Rivals of Rock, coming to crowdfunding later this year (the game came up organically within some of the topics several times with fun and insightful stories from Candice, but I had a section with a few more questions 🙁 —this note is part of the epilogue). Subscribe to Rivals of Rock’s game page to receive updates about the game here!Tune in for an amazing episode about board games, music, games about music, peculiar game night habits, reticular activating systems, and more!Follow Candice's upcoming newsletter, Squawk 'N' Roll!Intro (0:00)Candice’s musical journey and current relationship with music.Verse (11:31)Band TitlesMusic skills and approaches transferring into other elements of lifeShows/movies that feature drumsTrick-taking Interlude (34:27)In hindsight, I should’ve dubbed this one “trick-taking solo,” not as in solo trick-taking games but a section featuring trick-taking games—its solo.Verse (52:09)Board games about musicMusic with games: Games with music created specifically for them, playlists, and other ways in which you can listen while playingMusically-driven board game charactersOutro (1:23:16)A text on Candice’s mind and what to look out for from her!****Drum kit image courtesy of Clker-Free-Vector-Images via PixabayMeeple picture taken by me.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If you like this show, liking it on whatever platform you listen to and writing a review would mean so much! Furthermore, it's as independent as it gets, so any financial support would help with the subscriptions that make this project go smoothly. That can be done here: Buy Me a [email protected]

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