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• S2E12 | Unschooling Isn’t Freedom Gone Wild: Why Choices Matter More Than Ideals

  In this episode, Cecilie, Sandra, and Sue unpack the popular—but often misleading—idea of freedom in unschooling. What does it really mean to live freely, and what’s the cost when freedom becomes the goal instead of a tool?They discuss how some families rush into radical unschooling, letting go of all structure without understanding the role of guidance, responsibility, and deschooling. Sandra shares stories of families who confused “freedom” with letting go too fast—leaving children overwhelmed and relationships strained.The conversation explores the difference between being free and making good choices. True unschooling isn’t about abandoning rules—it’s about creating rich lives where children learn through real decisions, not in the absence of boundaries but within thoughtful, responsive relationships.They also address the legal and social realities unschoolers face, the dangers of turning unschooling into a competitive performance, and the importance of peaceful family dynamics. Unschooling can work—but only when parents are engaged, informed, and honest with themselves and their children.🔗 Sandra, Sue and Cecilie's websiteshttps://sandradodd.com https://storiesofanunschoolingfamily.com https://cecilieconrad.com🗓️ Recorded June 11, 2025. 📍  Åmarksgård, Lille Skendsved, Denmark Support the show____In season two of The Ladies Fixing the World, host Cecilie Conrad is joined by renowned unschooling advocates Sandra Dodd and Sue Elvis to explore unschooling as a lifestyle.

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• S2E11 | Unschooling, Attachment, and the Art of Letting Go: Building Trust Instead of Rules

  What happens when unschooling parents trade control for genuine connection? In this deep and honest conversation, Cecilie Conrad (Denmark), Sandra Dodd (USA), and Sue Elvis (Australia) tackle the big questions of attachment, freedom, and how trust transforms the parent-child relationship.Many parents fear that giving their children more freedom will mean losing influence over values and choices—or that it will lead to chaos. But as these three unschooling pioneers explore, true freedom isn't something we “give” our kids—it's something they already have. The real question: How do we nurture healthy attachment and remain an anchor, even as our children make their own decisions?The episode weaves together practical wisdom and lived experience:Why attachment and trust—not rules—build resilient, independent humansNavigating teen risk-taking, boundaries, and “mistakes”How to be your child’s partner, not their adversaryDealing with fears about religion, lifestyle choices, and social influenceWhy trying to control values and behaviors can backfireThe difference between “not influencing” and being a true guideHow parent-child partnership grows empathy, patience, and wisdom for both generationsCecilie, Sandra, and Sue also reflect on how unschooling changes the whole family, and why letting go of control doesn’t mean stepping back from guidance or care. They share stories about “swallowing camels,” cultural idioms, social skills, and the humbling lessons learned from listening to (and learning with) their own kids.🔗 Sandra, Sue and Cecilie's websiteshttps://sandradodd.com https://storiesofanunschoolingfamily.com https://cecilieconrad.com🗓️ Recorded May 1, 2025. 📍  Budapest, Hungary Support the show____In season two of The Ladies Fixing the World, host Cecilie Conrad is joined by renowned unschooling advocates Sandra Dodd and Sue Elvis to explore unschooling as a lifestyle.

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• S2E10 | Is It Working? Wrestling with Doubt in Unschooling

  Cecilie Conrad, Sandra Dodd, and Sue Elvis discuss doubt and fear in unschooling—where they come from, how they spread, and how to move through them without defaulting to school-based thinking. They explore the pressure of responsibility, the impact of lingering fears, and why letting go of outcomes helps build trust in both learning and relationships.They talk about how fear can be reinforced through casual conversation, especially when parents share worst-case scenarios or compare their children to school-based standards. The discussion includes the idea that much of what parents worry about is based on assumptions that haven’t been questioned, and how simply asking “Is it true?” can shift how we see our role.There’s also a focus on how unschooling parents can become more confident, not by forcing results, but by staying present, observing real growth over time, and letting go of the need to control outcomes. The conversation points to a broader definition of success—one that includes emotional well-being, agency, and the ability to build a life that fits, rather than one that follows external benchmarks.´🔗 Sandra, Sue and Cecilie's websiteshttps://sandradodd.com https://storiesofanunschoolingfamily.com https://cecilieconrad.com🗓️ Recorded April 28, 2025. 📍  Budapest, Hungary Support the show____In season two of The Ladies Fixing the World, host Cecilie Conrad is joined by renowned unschooling advocates Sandra Dodd and Sue Elvis to explore unschooling as a lifestyle.

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• S2E9 | Unschooling: How Do We Know They’re Learning?

  What if we abandoned the question "How do we know they're learning?" and trusted that they are? In this conversation, Cecilie Conrad, Sandra Dodd, and Sue Elvis look closely at the fears that drive many unschooling parents to seek proof of learning—and why those fears may come from old conditioning rather than real concerns.They explore how learning in an unschooling context doesn’t always look like progress, mastery, or academic benchmarks. Instead, it often appears as play, conversation, curiosity, or even stillness. The episode also addresses the "big mix-up in the mind of the parent" who must navigate between their children's authentic learning experiences and the official education system's expectations, the pressure parents feel to produce results, the danger of clinging to school-based frameworks, and the importance of stepping back and observing life as the curriculum.Sandra, Sue and Cecilies invite parents to shift their perspective away from questioning if their children are learning enough, toward cultivating environments rich in trust, conversation, and genuine curiosity.🗓️ Recorded March 20, 2025. 📍 Barcelona, Spain 🔗 Links & Resourceshttps://sandradodd.com https://storiesofanunschoolingfamily.com https://cecilieconrad.com Support the show____In season two of The Ladies Fixing the World, host Cecilie Conrad is joined by renowned unschooling advocates Sandra Dodd and Sue Elvis to explore unschooling as a lifestyle.

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• S2E8 | The Math Myth: How Do Unschooled Kids Learn Math?

  In this episode, we explore one of the most persistent questions in unschooling: What about math? Cecilie, Sandra, and Sue examine the widespread belief that children can’t learn math without formal instruction — and explain why that belief doesn’t hold up.Cecilie reflects on the early years of home education in her family, the pressure to “cover” math, and the quiet fear of doing too little. Sandra shares examples of how her children developed mathematical thinking through games, practical needs, and everyday problem-solving — without ever relying on school-based methods. Sue talks about letting go of structured lessons and learning to trust her children’s approach to math.Together, they look at how math fits into unschooling — and what becomes possible when we stop trying to teach it and start noticing how it shows up in real life.🗓️ Recorded February 27, 2025. 📍  Finhan, France 🔗 Links & Resources https://sandradodd.com https://storiesofanunschoolingfamily.com https://cecilieconrad.com Support the show____In season two of The Ladies Fixing the World, host Cecilie Conrad is joined by renowned unschooling advocates Sandra Dodd and Sue Elvis to explore unschooling as a lifestyle.

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