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- We're proud to introduce Opening Weekend: Selling Hollywood with Jim Fredrick, starting with episode one right here on TG&TG!
The most beloved movie on IMDb was, on opening weekend, a flop. Jim Fredrick, who cut the original trailer at Castle Rock, reunites with producer Liz Glotzer to unpack how The Shawshank Redemption got left at the box office and found its audience anyway.
Takeaways:
The title took the blame. Trimming Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption down to The Shawshank Redemption was meant to play commercial. The press pinned the soft open on a title nobody could decode.
No stars, an R rating, a prison. Jim walks through the marketing wall he faced, with Darabont sitting beside him guarding the cut so the trailer gave nothing away.
Three million to walk away. Darabont turned down a big payday to not direct, and chose to helm his debut instead, one of several near-misses behind the finished film.
Oscars, then Turner, then legacy. Seven nominations nudged theatrical, but the film truly found its audience through relentless TNT airings and a chart-topping home video run.
Pull quotes (social-ready):
"For 18 years, The Shawshank Redemption has been the number one movie on IMDb. So why wasn't I able to open the film?" — Jim Fredrick
"We thought we were being commercial by changing it from Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption to The Shawshank Redemption. Probably that was our first mistake." — Liz Glotzer
"The marketing perspective is always give as much away as possible." — Liz Glotzer
"You pretty much couldn't turn on the channel and Shawshank wasn't playing." — Liz Glotzer
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West One Music and Q Factory by Robert Etoll (westonemusic.com) - It was so cool to get to hang out with Chris Daniel, the Senior Vice President of Global Creative Marketing at LionsGate. Prior to LionsGate, Chris led 360 marketing campaigns on some of Netflix's biggest films such as Red Notice, Glass Onion, Dayshift, To All The Boys: P.S. I Still Love You, Dolemite Is My Name, and Over The Moon. Previously, he edited and produced trailers, digital-social, and brand campaigns at AV Squad where he was a part of a ton of award-winning work. Chris came up through the ranks at highly creative shops Mocean, Ignition and Seismic. Over his years on the agency side, he's been recognized with Clio Entertainment and Golden Trailer Awards (and even a CUTTER AWARD - y'all remember that?) for his campaigns for Red Notice, Dayshift, Bright, The 13th, Spy, Top 5, The Drop and many more.
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You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as www.linkedin.com/in/coreysnathan. - Trailer Park's theatrical division has closed its doors, so we gathered five of the people who were there at the very beginning. Tim Nett, Jim Hale, Ann Mugglebee, Mike Southerly, and Tommy Gargotta trace the company from a single rented edit bay on Cahuenga to a sign you could spot from miles away. Part origin story, part reunion, and a fitting tribute to where it all started.
In this episode:
One rented room, one Avid. The whole thing began when Tim rented a single bay from commercial editor Jacques Dury, back when an Avid ran around $150K. The crew grew room by room until they took over the building.
Culture was the product. Before pleasing clients, the team's first job was making each other laugh. A building so small you could hear every bay (and shout notes through the wall) built a bond that outlasted the company.
Scrappy beat safe. A handful of clients took a leap of faith on a brand-new shop run by people barely into their thirties, and that trust launched something that ran for decades.
A few lines that landed:
"We were all, like, kids. We had no business starting a company." (Tim Nett)
"We were laying down train track that we didn't even realize we were laying down." (Ann Mugglebee)
"Can you believe we were part of that?" (Tommy Gargotta, on spotting the Trailer Park sign from the freeway)
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www.apmmusic.com - Logan Gruidl is Senior Producer at Picture Head and the founder of The Trailer Brief, a bi-weekly newsletter covering trailer craft, industry news, and the campaigns shaping entertainment advertising. After coming up as an AE at Outpost and Grandson, Logan built his finishing expertise at Picturehead while quietly becoming one of the industry's most thoughtful new voices.
Key Takeaways:
The finishing side of the industry is poorly understood even by people in it. Logan breaks down how color, mix, versioning, and delivery work at a post house like Picture Head.
The Trailer Brief was born from a need to stay engaged with the creative side of the industry while doing finishing work full-time. The journalism background helped.
AI as editorial tool, not ghostwriter. Logan uses ChatGPT to round up trades and Claude to pressure-test his drafts, not write them.
The Uncut Gems trailer was the piece that made him want to work in this industry. Grandson had it on their homepage when he was interviewing.
Building community matters. Between Behind the Trailer, TWMT, Jules Levy's Tuesday roundups, and now The Trailer Brief, a real ecosystem of industry education and documentation is taking shape.
Standout Quotes:
"We're in a cool place right now where the people who founded the industry are still working, but there's also a whole new slate of editors who came up wanting to be trailer editors — and now they're working next to the people who cut the things that inspired them."
"I felt like the way to keep accountable was to write about them."
"If I can distill it down to four bullet points for someone who just got off a 12-hour shift, and they feel better about their knowledge of the industry — that's a win."
"I don't think anyone my age really wants to be a finisher, aside from me."
"I was like, okay, time to go to Picturehead — be a smaller fish in a bigger pond."
Links:
The Trailer Brief: the-trailer-brief.beehiiv.com
Logan on LinkedIn: @Logan-Gruidl
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Enjoying the show? Rate and review wherever you listen. It helps more people find us. Now go do some inspired work. - Monica Brady has spent 26 years doing something that didn't exist when she started: honoring the people who make movie trailers. Co-founded with her sister Evelyn on a boat to Fort Sumter in 1999, the Golden Trailer Awards grew from a scrappy DGA screening room show (running on two Avids, fingers crossed) into the industry's premier celebration of trailer craft. In this episode, Monica traces the full arc of the GTAs, from a pre-broadband era when trailer editors were essentially invisible, to a show that now spans dozens of categories and serves as a genuine career launchpad for aspiring creatives.
5 Key Takeaways
The GTAs were born out of necessity, not ambition. Monica and Evelyn weren't trying to build an institution. They were trying to find a trailer editor for their student film and couldn't. No directory, no resource, no awards show existed. So they created one. What was meant to "run on autopilot" is now 26 years in.
The show evolves as the industry evolves. From 23 categories in 1999 (including one they couldn't even explain) to dedicated tracks for streaming series, video games, and social trailer bites, the GTAs have always followed the craft. Categories don't get added by committee — they get added when the industry shows up and says "we cut these like theatrical trailers."
Music is the most powerful recall tool in the trailer editor's kit. Monica keeps coming back to music as the thread connecting memory, emotion, and ticket sales. Editors who also play instruments aren't a coincidence — music is math, and the pattern recognition required for both is the same muscle.
The trailer industry is uniquely positioned for the AI era. Most industries are bracing for an onslaught of AI-generated content. Monica's case: who better to make sense of a flood of footage than people who have spent decades being handed raw material with no script, no direction, and a tight deadline? The trailer editor's core skill is exactly what the moment will demand.
Standout Quotes
"We sent out some applications, and the rest will run on autopilot. And 26 years later, you're looking at the autopilots."
"Who but the trailer industry have had a decades-long start at taking nonsensical footage about a topic they know nothing about — no script, no direction — and crafting a story together?"
"These trailer editors are artists. And that is one of the things that sets the human being apart from whatever's coming at us right now."
"Everybody help each other. We're here a very short amount of time on this planet. Let's just make the most of it."
Links & Resources
Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com
GTA 26 — May 28, 2026 | Saban Theatre, Beverly Hills
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