The Threat Modeling Podcast

• Gavin Klondike -- Threat modeling for large language model applications

  In this episode of the Threat Modeling Podcast, host Chris Romeo takes listeners on a journey through the intricate world of threat modeling. Joined by senior security consultant Gavin Klondike, the episode delves into Gavin's experiences and insights into threat modeling, particularly in the context of artificial intelligence and machine learning. Gavin shares a detailed case study, discussing methodologies, strengths, weaknesses, and the importance of holistic threat modeling processes. The conversation also highlights the challenges posed by large language models (LLMs), and Gavin provides a comprehensive threat model for LLM applications, exploring various vulnerabilities and mitigations. Links for this episode:The Threat Modeling blog post discussed during the episode.danielmiessler.comembracethered.comaivillage.orgllmtop10.comWelcome to Smart Threat Modeling. Devici makes threat modeling simple, actionable, and scalable. Identify and deal with threats faster than ever. Build three free models and collaborate with up to ten people in our Free Forever plan. Get started at devici.com and threat model for free! Smart threat modeling for development teams.

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• Nandita Rao Narla -- Privacy Threat Modeling Wins, Losses, and Tools

  In this podcast episode, Nandita Rao Narla explores the reasons why privacy threat modeling programs often fail, such as being expensive with a lot of friction in the development lifecycle, misalignment with organizational strategies focused on compliance rather than risk, and difficulty demonstrating a clear return on investment. Nandita highlights some successful strategies, including leveraging existing security threat modeling resources, simplifying the approach for better adoption like Adam Shostack's four-question framework, aligning with organizational values and culture, and encouraging a mindset of considering what could go wrong. The role of tooling in privacy threat modeling is discussed, with most organizations currently not using many dedicated tools beyond data mapping and asset discovery, while larger companies with mature programs may utilize more advanced tooling. Ultimately, privacy threat modeling represents the next frontier, with a strong privacy program partnering with security threat modeling being the next generation approach.Welcome to Smart Threat Modeling. Devici makes threat modeling simple, actionable, and scalable. Identify and deal with threats faster than ever. Build three free models and collaborate with up to ten people in our Free Forever plan. Get started at devici.com and threat model for free! Smart threat modeling for development teams.

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• Nandita Rao Narla -- Privacy Threat Modeling

  Nandita Rao Narla introduces the basics of privacy in software. She discusses privacy threats, privacy threat modeling, and privacy by design. Suppose you write or handle software that touches user information. In that case, you need to understand privacy, how to assess and mitigate privacy concerns, and know when to implement privacy concerns into a design. This episode of the Threat Modeling Podcast is the perfect primer to raise awareness of the critical role privacy concerns should play in your next project.Helpful Links:Daniel J. Solove's "A Taxonomy of Privacy":  https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2074&context=faculty_publicationsWelcome to Smart Threat Modeling. Devici makes threat modeling simple, actionable, and scalable. Identify and deal with threats faster than ever. Build three free models and collaborate with up to ten people in our Free Forever plan. Get started at devici.com and threat model for free! Smart threat modeling for development teams.

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• Akira Brand -- Gaining Experience by Threat Modeling

  Akira Brand joins Chris to talk about her journey into threat modeling, her early experiences, some lessons learned, and how she knew her threat model was successful. Akira's experiences emphasize the importance of collaboration, understanding the application, and using tools and diagrams to aid the process.Akira is a visual thinker and draws parallels between surgical checklists and the STRIDE model. Akira emphasizes the importance of a comprehensive approach, likening the STRIDE model to a surgeon's checklist that ensures all potential threats are addressed.In her initial foray into threat modeling, she identified a significant security risk due to excessive permissions in an application. To understand and address this, she delved deep into the application's architecture, relying on data flow diagrams and a hands-on approach rather than a purely theoretical one.Akira's story underscores the power of collaboration. Her challenges were overcome by the combined efforts of teams from engineering, data analytics, and security. She believes that the true measure of success in threat modeling is when diverse teams come together to create holistic security solutions.Welcome to Smart Threat Modeling. Devici makes threat modeling simple, actionable, and scalable. Identify and deal with threats faster than ever. Build three free models and collaborate with up to ten people in our Free Forever plan. Get started at devici.com and threat model for free! Smart threat modeling for development teams.

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• Dr. Michael Loadenthal -- Intersectional, Harm Reduction Approach to Threat Modeling

  Dr. Michael Loadenthal specializes in threat modeling beyond the conventional realm of technology. Companies today face multifaceted challenges, including political, legal, and technical threats. Solutions to these problems can also be varied. A comprehensive threat model should consider many dimensions, such as political, legal, ethical, and social. Whether advising activist groups or high-profile individuals, Dr. Loadenthal emphasizes a comprehensive understanding of the threat landscape and the development of context-specific solutions.Dr. Loadenthal's unique approach to threat modeling is rooted in his early involvement in social movements and activism. He noticed that groups often faced many non-technical threats, such as legal, social, and political challenges. This realization led him to develop "intersectional threat modeling," which considers a broader spectrum of threats beyond just the technical.Based on his diverse training and experience, Dr. Loadenthal emphasizes the importance of a multidisciplinary approach. He collaborates with a diverse team of specialists, including advisors and the clients themselves, to address complex challenges. Threat modeling works best with a team, and he discusses ways this works for him.One of the tools in Dr. Loadenthal's multidisciplinary toolbox is the mind map. A mind map can show relationships between threats and lead to integrated solutions that address multiple problems together. A tool he likes to use from outside the tech industry is the harm reduction framework, a concept borrowed from public health. This approach acknowledges the inherent risks in various activities or systems but seeks to minimize the potential harm. Dr. Loadenthal explains how he applies the harm reduction framework to threat modeling. He shares practical examples of companies, non-profits, and high-profile individuals who all benefit from the broader perspective of his intersectional threat modeling.Welcome to Smart Threat Modeling. Devici makes threat modeling simple, actionable, and scalable. Identify and deal with threats faster than ever. Build three free models and collaborate with up to ten people in our Free Forever plan. Get started at devici.com and threat model for free! Smart threat modeling for development teams.

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