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  • Clever with Amy Devers

    Ep. 163: Designer Jay Osgerby Shines a Light on Loss, Legacy, and Longevity [encore]

    26.05.2026 | 1 t. 26 min.
    It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Jay has continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since this conversation, and we have updates. Be sure to subscribe to our Substack & social (IG & LI) to catch up on Jay’s recent news!

    Clever Ep. 163: Industrial designer and founding partner of Barber Osgerby, Jay Osgerby, grew up in a small town in England, with his close-knit multi-generational family and the backdrop of his grandparents’ experiences through WWII. His childhood was filled with making things - inspired by his Swiss ancestors’ stories of watch and camera making. His parents were incredibly resourceful, whether it was opening a shop together or repurposing curtains when the local cinema closed. This pioneering spirit is something that Jay has carried with him throughout his career - from his studies at RCA where he met long-time business partner and friend, Ed Barber, to designing the 2012 Olympic Torch, to revolutionizing how people work remotely with Soft Work seating. Now, 25+ years into design, Jay reveals the triumphs and tragedies that lined his path and forged his character with candor, humor, and an unflagging optimism that burns bright and steady like the inextinguishable flame of the Olympic Torch.

    Images, links and more from Jay Osgerby!

    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.

    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!
    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts
    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes
    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers

    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    Join us for Emerging Designers Spotlight LIVE, Sunday May 17, 4pm on the Main Stage at ICFF NYC. Register to attend for free with code: MISKGENSPK
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • Clever with Amy Devers

    Ep.141: Hip Hop Architect Michael Ford [encore]

    19.05.2026 | 1 t. 13 min.
    It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, be sure to subscribe to our Substack & social (IG & LI) to catch up on some of their recent news!

    Michael Ford is the designer and activist known as The Hip Hop Architect. Born in Highland Park, Michigan the son of a minister, Michael was raised to be inquisitive and question the world around him to find deeper truth. Early on, he found his passion for design and music, expanding it into a practice of architecture and design through the lens of Hip Hop culture. This led to his founding of The Hip Hop Architecture Camp®, a camp that positions Hip Hop Culture as a catalyst to introduce architecture and design to underrepresented youth. He’s also working with some of Hip Hop's greatest names as he leads the design of The Universal Hip Hop Museum in The Bronx.

    Images and more from Michael Ford on our website!

    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.

    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!
    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts
    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes
    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers
    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    Join us for Emerging Designers Spotlight LIVE, Sunday May 17, 4pm on the Main Stage at ICFF NYC. Register to attend for free with code: MISKGENSPK
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • Clever with Amy Devers

    Ep. 56: Jerry Helling [encore]

    12.05.2026 | 1 t. 3 min.
    It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring and revisiting some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, be sure to subscribe to our Substack to catch up on some of their recent news!

    Ep. 56: Jerry Helling - President and Creative Director of Bernhardt Design, Jerry Helling, grew up on a ranch in a remote town with 11 people in his graduating class before venturing to USC and a potential career in Hollywood. A personal epiphany combined with serendipity rerouted him into the furniture business, resulting in a long and distinguished career as a keen mentor of talent, a champion of originality, a risk-taking, needle-moving industry voice, and a major benefactor of international design. Plus, he’s really nice!

    Images and more from Jerry Helling on our website!

    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.

    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!
    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts
    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes
    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers
    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    Join us for Emerging Designers Spotlight LIVE, Sunday May 17, 4pm on the Main Stage at ICFF NYC. Register to attend for free with code: MISKGENSPK
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • Clever with Amy Devers

    Ep. 213: The Quiet Rebellion of Biodesigner Natsai Audrey Chieza [encore]

    05.05.2026 | 1 t. 5 min.
    It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. Our guests have continued to make meaningful contributions to the world since we had our initial conversations, be sure to subscribe to our Substack to catch up on some of their recent news!

    Ep. 213: The Quiet Rebellion of Biodesigner Natsai Audrey Chieza - Natsai Audrey Chieza spent her youth in Zimbabwe in a close-knit extended family where she and her cousins were “in each others’ pockets.” In her teenage years the national economy crashed, necessitating a family relocation to the UK, and she began learning the skill of “not belonging.” Architecture studies proved alienating so she found a way to combine them with her love of fashion (to the consternation of her professors.) Rejecting the prescribed path of a professional architect, she instead pursued a postgraduate program in Material Futures that set her on a path of designing with bacteria. Now, she’s founded Faber Futures, a biodesign studio, and Normal Phenomena of Life, an artful lifestyle and fashion brand that also functions as a working prototype of a new model bioeconomy. She’s spent her whole life quietly not doing what was expected of her, and in this space of outsiderness she’s been very busy creating new paradigms for how we might collaborate with nature and new models for the equitable stewardship of these new biotechnologies. So, in terms of cultural infrastructure, she is an architect after all!

    Images and more from Natsai Audrey Chieza on our website!

    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.

    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!
    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts
    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes
    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers
    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    Join us for Emerging Designers Spotlight LIVE, Sunday May 17, 4pm on the Main Stage at ICFF NYC. Register to attend for free with code: MISKGENSPK
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
  • Clever with Amy Devers

    Clever Ep. 1: Joe Doucet [encore]

    28.04.2026 | 51 min.
    It’s Clever’s 10th anniversary! We’re celebrating by honoring some of the amazing stories we’ve collected over the years. We’re kicking off the party with a rewind of our very first episode! Joe Doucet has continued to make meaningful contributions to the built environment since we had this conversation, be sure to subscribe to our Substack to catch up on some of his recent works!

    New York-based multi-disciplinary designer, Joe Doucet, tells Amy and Jaime why he doesn’t start any project with sketching, how a pair of avant-garde headphones caught the attention of Lady Gaga, and how he cross-trains his brain.

    Images and more from Joe Doucet on our website!

    Special thanks to our sponsor! Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.

    Clever is hosted & produced by Amy Devers, with editing by Mark Zurawinski, production assistance from Ilana Nevins and Anouchka Stephan, and music by El Ten Eleven.

    SUBSCRIBE - listen to Clever on any podcast app!
    SIGN UP - for our Substack for news, bonus content, new episode alerts
    VISIT - cleverpodcast.com for transcripts, images, and 200+ more episodes
    SAY HI! - on Instagram & LinkedIn @cleverpodcast @amydevers
    Special thanks to our sponsors!

    Wix Studio is a platform built for all web creators to design, develop, and manage exceptional web projects at scale.
    Join us for Emerging Designers Spotlight LIVE, Sunday May 17, 4pm on the Main Stage at ICFF NYC. Register to attend for free with code: MISKGENSPK
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Om Clever with Amy Devers
Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to unearth the gritty, authentic and sometimes surprising details of their creative paths.Clever Confidential is Clever’s offshoot series where we dig into the lesser told stories of the darker side of design; the shadowy, sometimes sordid, tales hiding under a glossy top coat of respectable legacy.Visit our website:cleverpodcast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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