Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

In February 1998 the dismembered remains of an elderly man were found in Tuscarawas County, Ohio. The remains were in two suitcases found days apart and investigators determined all of the remains belonged to the same individual. The hands and head were not in either suitcase, preventing identification of the remains. The case went cold. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a look at what happened over 30 years and how Othram was able to identify the remains and in the process, identify the person who put the remains in the suitcases.
Host: Joseph Scott Morgan
Co-Host: Dave Mack




Transcribe Highlights
00:00.29 Introduction - Retirement
05:11.00 Dismembered remains found
10:35.78 Remains were "fresh"
15:16.46 Coroner would have been alerted
20:11.67 Body Bag becomes evidence
25:22.09 Forensic anthropology
30:07.00 Victim was in his 90s
36:22.81 DNA - Othram, identified remains
39:58.10 Son Collected Dad social security and pension
45:55.32 Conclusion
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The Piketon Massacre - 10 years later, Part 2. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what has been called the "Pike County Murders" "The Piketon Massacre" and other names - It was the murders of 8 people at 4 crime scenes in one night. The Wagner family of killers arrested just over two years after the massacre. Jake Wagner pleaded guilty to aggravated murder, conspiracy, aggravated burglary, tampering with evidence and other charges. As part of the plea Jake had to testify against his brother and father. In exchange for this, Jake would be sentenced to life without parole. But that did not happen. Jake Wagner was sentenced to life with possibility of parole after 32 years. The mother, Angela Wagner, took a plea deal and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. George Wagner IV was found guilty at trial and sentenced to eight consecutive life sentences and another121 years for other offenses. 10 years after the murders of the Rhoden family, 8 years after being arrested and charged, Billy Wagner, the Patriarch of the Wagner family still hasn't been tried. A trial date isn't even set, yet.


Transcribe Highlights
00:00:07.67 Intro - Piketon Part 2
00:04:26.75 Billy Wagner "just killed my best friend"
00:10:10.10 Chris Rhoden setting example for sons to follow
00:15:28.93 Wear pattern on shoe
00:20:35.58 Splinters blasted into victims' face
00:25:32.73 Working multi-scene death investigation
00:30:01.14 Source of the blood
00:35:22.42 What conversation is taking place in the vehicle of killers
00:40:01.17 The finders
00:45:07.00 What more could there possible be
00:50:04.66 Kenneth grew a few pot plants
00:55:11.86 Suspects destroyed entire genetic line 01:01:12.22 Conclusion
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Revisiting the Piketon Massacre, Ten years later. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case that can best be described as: 8 Murders. 4 Crime Scenes. 1 Night. Ten years since the murders took place, eight years since the arrest of the Wagner family. The case isn't over yet.







Transcribe Highlights
00:00.09 Introduction: Timelines
05:13.71 Jake Wagner, 18 dating Hanna Rhoden. 13
10:19.50 Billy Wagner 6'6" 275 lbs
15:16.31 Forgive but don't forget
20:39.38 Toddler "mommy and daddy playing zombie"
25:05.27 Custody of Baby Sophia
30:17.03 Dark, no light, suspects had to be familiar
35:29.91 Execution of Rhoden Family
41:08.15 Vengeance and Hatred

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Prosecutors say David Anthony Burke lured Celeste Rivas to his home on April 23, 2025 and killed the 14-year-old by stabbing her twice. After watching the child bleed out, Burke began creating an alibi that included getting rid of evidence. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the last hours of Celeste Rivas life, and Burke allegedly used two chainsaws and an inflatable pool to destroy a person, and evidence.






Transcribe Highlights
00:00.12 Introduction - Bonus Episode
01:31.55 Revelations from court
05:10.87 D4VD met Celeste Rivas when she was 11
10:38.71 Celeste Rivas body was destroyed
15:31.90 Burke pays child $1,000 to sneak a phone to 13-year-old Celeste
20:24.85 Burke and Celeste "broke up" in November 2024
25:08.01 Burke began creating alibi
30:30.30 M.E. identified two stab wounds
35:22.82 Chainsaw and kiddie pool
40:32.38 Burke allegedly used chainsaw to dismember
45:34.05 PI Steve Fischer saw freezer
50:38.87 Blood, tissue, bone would be slung everywhere
53:31.00 Conclusion
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The Martin Family took a day trip on a beautiful December day to gather greenery for Christmas decorations. The All-American Family led by father, Kenneth Martin, 54, Mother, Barbara,48, and their three daughters, 14-year-old Barbara - they called her "Barbie", 13-year-old, Virginia, and 11-year-old Susan. An older son, Donald, 28, was not with the family as he was serving in the US Navy stationed in New York. While out on their family day of fun, something strange happened..... the Martin family vanished. Searches were launched, interviews conducted and a reward was offered, but no luck, the Martin family was gone. Six months later, two of the girls bodies showed up in the river, but they were so decomposed dental identification was used. Were the Martin's murdered? Hunted for Sport? Was it a tragic accident? Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a ride with Doc and Marty back to 1958 to uncover the mystery of the Martin Family disappearance.




Transcribe Highlights
00:00.16 Introduction - Travel
02:17.35 Family vanishes in 1958
05:12.31 Martin Family outing
10:47.78 River could move car a long way
15:18.32 First bodies found after 6 months
20:05.82 Looking for bullet track
25:14.77 Diving expert finds car
30:17.46 Expert understanding of vehicle
35:29.27 Getting vehicle out of the water
39:46.01 Conclusion
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