After the Deluge

• BON IVER: A Conversation with Chris Messina (22, a Million and I,i)

  Chris Messina co-produced the Bon Iver records 22, a Million and I,i, among dozens more by other artists. This is a bonus of sorts before we finish up at SABLE, fABLE. Chris and I casually talk about records made on unconventional instruments, exaggerated narratives around 22, a Million, turning April Base into a proper studio, living in Eau Claire for nine years, using gear incorrectly, adapting these kinds of songs live, big-ass headphones, finishing a record in Texas, a quick pop-punk diversion, and more. https://www.messinachris.com/patreon.com/afterthedelugeinstagram.com/routinelayup

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• BON IVER: I, i w/ Avery Adams and Kevin W. Smith

  Avery Adams is a producer, musician, and chef, and Kevin W. Smith is a writer and radio host. We talk about Bon Iver’s fourth album, I,i (Jagjaguar), released on August 9, 2019, an 8.8 Best New Music on Pitchfork. Also: Music writing circa 2007, For Emma vinyl sales, album “branding,” Vernon's non-falsetto register, Naeem drums, sliding on cardboard, no click, Texas, Hornsby, Beck, this album's got moments, “Hey, Ma,” bass lines, Aaron Rogers and Justin Vernon interview circa 2019, The Bee Gees, where this album stands against the discography, Radiohead, Animal Collective, Of Montreal, and indulging creative impulses. FULL EPISODE W/ PRODUCER CHRIS MESSINA ON PATREONAVERY matiakitchen.com instagram.com/rarebirdcommittee/instagram.com/realfreaque/https://www.instagram.com/nautilusenclave/KEVINhttps://kmre.org/island-time/https://keviniswriting.com/

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• BON IVER: 22, a Million w/ Ian Grant (Jokermen)

  Ian Grant is the host of the Jokermen podcast. We discuss Bon Iver's 2016 record 22, a Million (Jagjaguar). After dipping into the 9.0 Pitchfork review, we talk about a For Emma sunrise show at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, having his mind blown by this record in impact (and me ignoring it) in 2016, that year's prez election, the OP-1 synth, “It might be over soon,” Kanye briefly, Stevie Nicks singing “Wild Heart," listening Radiohead and Bon Iver while flying, “Staying at the Ace Hotel,” don’t trust Spot*fy lyrics, “the days have no numbers,” saying these song titles out loud, Taylor in C0vid, and Jokermen's Beach Boys journey.THIS SHOW ON PATREONMe:⁠x.com/routinelayup⁠bsky.app/profile/routinelayup.bsky.social⁠Ian:https://bsky.app/profile/ianjgrant.comx.com/JokermenPodcastinstagram.com/jokermenpodcast

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• BON IVER: Bon Iver w/ Mark Richardson

  Mark Richardson is former Editor in Chief at Pitchfork and current Rock and Pop Critic at the Wall Street Journal. We talk about the 2011 album Bon Iver, Bon Iver, for which Mark wrote the Pitchfork review (9.5). We talk about the anticipation around this record, fusing adult-contemporary and the avant-garde, Animal Collective, Bonnie Raitt, 80s R&B, sincerity vs. irony, is this “sad” music?, a careful use of arrangement and dynamics, Heath Ledger, Shakespearian verse, “Holocene,” the albums’ sequencing, the midwestern-ness of it all, Kanye West, commas in the album titles, Rubber Soul/Revolver, we bow down to “Beth/Rest,” a bit of SABLE, fABLE, and Mark tells a story about how this record could have gotten a 10. Me:⁠x.com/routinelayup⁠bsky.app/profile/routinelayup.bsky.social⁠Mark:x.com/MarkRichardsonbsky.app/profile/markrichardson.bsky.socialhttps://markrichardson.org/

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• BON IVER: For Emma, Forever Ago, w/ Chris DeVille

  Chris DeVille is Managing Editor at Stereogum and author of the book Such Great Heights, available for preorder now. We talk about the 2007 Bon Iver debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago. Also going cabin-mode in the Wisconsin winter, this album's lore, the indie landscape in '08, Pitchfork kingmaking, The OC, Garden State, Popt*mism, gentrifying indie music, hearing "Skinny Love" at my bad recession-era office job, "Flume" as a thesis, stacking falsetto harmonies, the lyrics, staring out windows at crows, Sable, bass-fishing boats, "Re: Stacks" and final tracks, cooking with minimal ingredients, Blood Bank EP, the pursuit of hipness and the evolution of indie rock. Order Chris's book.Blood Bank EP episode is live now on Patreon: patreon.com/afterthedeluge--Justin: x.com/routinelayup / routinelayup.bsky.socialChris: x.com/chrisdeville / chrisdeville.bsky.social/

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